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Finally I got to reply to a comment using that fine line!
That was in response to a comment for Chapter 42 of the Triangle. Not even a particularly negative comment, just one where the commenter had a different view about character's pairing, which is fair enough!
But I wonder if this means that I'm a proper author now?  :-)
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Date: 2013-09-06 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yavannie82.livejournal.com
That was such a strange comment though! o.O

It's like... Yeah, we all play around with the animals representing these characters, but that must be the most literal take on Sandor as a dog and Jaime as a lion ever.

Also, are they aware of SanSan as a ship? :D

Date: 2013-09-07 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytp.livejournal.com
I had to google 'meh'... It was perfectly fine comment and I had absolutely no issues with it, but I had been itching to use the line so here I saw my chance, he he!

About the animals; I love it how all the others have one (the lion, the hound, the bull) but Sansa has two (the wolf and the little bird). It is like she has two sides of her character and/or life's arc, and how different they are!

Date: 2013-09-06 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maracuyakongeen.livejournal.com
"...mere dog. ... the lion and the hound are not equals and are never meant to be that way."
It's one thing if you prefer one character over another - but the way the sentence is written here it reveals a lot of classhole thinking.
And you're certainly a proper author!!! ;-)

Date: 2013-09-07 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytp.livejournal.com
Thanks! I am very careful of using the word 'writer' as 'author' is something bigger, I have always felt... But it was funny what Moony wrote in your entry re. criticism, hence this post...

The lion or the Hound? The Hound or the Lion? Both! :-)

Date: 2013-09-10 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starbird1.livejournal.com
Criticism doesn't make you an author, darling. Interesting plots, realistic dialog, and an attention to pacing do. You were an author long before that comment came in. :: raises glass in toast ::

Date: 2013-09-10 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytp.livejournal.com
Oh thank you dear!!
*clinks back*
You may or may not have seen this discussion a short while back (http://maracuyakongeen.livejournal.com/68400.html?view=comments) where this subject came up, hence the tongue in cheek question!
I would imagine you have never received even a slightest negative comment, your stories being so beautiful and without controversy that some others may have (unpopular pairings, triggering content without warnings, gore and sexual misconduct...). At least I hope so!

Date: 2013-09-10 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starbird1.livejournal.com
Missed that discussion (sigh, never enough time!) but now I've got your perspective. :-)

I haven't entirely escaped criticism though, you're right, my stuff is pretty benign. I should try being more controversial sometime! :-) I love it when people are specific, so even specific criticism would be okay so long as it was constructive. I like to know what's working already and where I could improve. That I consider fair game.

Between you, me, and the fence post, though, I do sometimes wonder if reviewers ever take 5 seconds to think, "hey, this person probably spent a lot of time and effort away from their job/family/friends creating this for my free entertainment," before they start blasting off thoughtless, hurtful comments, like we authors work solely for that reader's personal satisfaction.

Okay, stepping off my soap box now. :-)

Date: 2013-09-10 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytp.livejournal.com
By all means be controversial, but only if you feel like doing it!! And I agree with you 100% about how getting specific comments is just the best (and why I love your little pointers, yay!), even if it would be more con-crit than general gushing.

I suspect that once one starts to write oneself, the true appreciation of the importance and value of comment giving soon follows. At least I would find it hard to imagine finding an author who would dwell on thoughtless, hurtful comments. But one never knows, I suppose.

And weirdest things, sometimes: once I got a comment that was very nice, but hinted that maybe I should write longer chapters but less often, rather than shorter chapters more often. Well, in that situation I was doing it deliberately to get the bloody things out of my head and my computer, just so I could concentrate on writing more (also experimenting 'on-the-seat-off-my-pants' style of writing). That was a bit weird, and I couldn't help suggesting that if my timing was not good, maybe she could hold off and read my snippets eg only once a week, or every two weeks - that way she would get longer chapters less frequently. It was all in her power after all...
*shakes head, but not angrily, only contemplatingly*

Date: 2013-09-11 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starbird1.livejournal.com
"I suspect that once one starts to write oneself, the true appreciation of the importance and value of comment giving soon follows." Yes, absolutely! Sevenmas was the first thing I published that wasn't a one-shot or already complete when I put it out there and I had no idea how much those comments would mean. I've tried to get better about letting an author know when I like their work because I know how much it makes my day when someone takes the time to comment on my own. The flip side to that, of course, is that I'm kind of baffled when someone takes the time to follow/favorite a multi-chapter work but not comment. It's like, I know you're out there. Why don't you SAY something?? So I do try to comment often.

I actually do remember seeing that comment about your timing and it puzzled me as well. I think it may be another thing non-authors may not consider: some people use fic as a way to flex their writing muscles. To me, it made perfect sense that you'd want to experiment with shorter, more frequent chapters and not agonize over every single word forever.

It may be, too, that fic has created a kind of . . . I don't want to say immediate gratification reaction . . . I don't know how to put it exactly. Not 'fic on demand' but there sometimes seems to be maybe more of a willingness by readers to make requests of or suggestions to authors, or express their own preferences in a desire to influence the work. Maybe because this is obviously something that doesn't happen with work/books published traditionally. 'Influence' is probably what I'm trying to say. I respond to every comment I get and I think you do, too, so maybe that invites 'requests.' By and large, the interaction is awesome but, as you noted, sometimes someone says something that makes you scratch your head.

Date: 2013-09-14 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytp.livejournal.com
You are so right about many fic writers using writing (and publishing their work) as means to learn, as means to get better at it. As Moony mentioned in one of her Tumblr comments, it would be foolish to expect all fanfics to be literary-award/GRRM-quality from the get-go - writers need to practice!

And yes too to the up- and downsides of the interactions with the reading community. Wonderful encouragement to continue, validation of one's own feels (as none of us does this for any other reasons but for our own selfish enjoyment, really), but also sometimes somewhat unrealistic expectations... (like me right now, tempted to ask you about the next chapter of Seven More, but heroically restraining myself!)
(D'oh, darn!)...

*hugs*

Date: 2013-09-17 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starbird1.livejournal.com
Bahahahahaha! Heroic restraint! Love it. :-) I actually almost published the next chapter twice now but I continue to wrestle with some details. I'm not 100% enthused about some things and those have to be improved before I let anyone else see it. I need to take a cue from you and experiment with shorter chapters!

Yes, writers definitely need practice. As much as I admire GRRM's writing, the man foisted "fat pink mast" on us and that's not to be forgiven. I've never read *anything* in fic nearly that bad!

Date: 2013-09-18 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytp.livejournal.com
Waiting with bated breath... :-)

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